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seekme
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2004-07-29, 19:10 h [ - Direct link - ] |
topic: Amiga 2004 - wer ist das ?
Board: Amiga, AmigaOS 4 Zitat: Ich helf mal beim 'Aussuchen'  1. David Ogg behauptet er hätte AInc wegen einer Lizenz für AmigaOS4 auf Pegasos angeschrieben, aber keine Anwort erhalten. 2. Garry Hare meint, es wäre vielleicht für einen Geschäftsparter (Eyetech) schlecht, wenn es einen Boardkonkurenten gäbe. 3. Nate Downes behauptet es hätte 5 Anfragen für AmigaOS4 auf Peg gegeben. 4. Alan Redhouse (Eyetech) meint, wenn noch jemand einen Computer mit AmigaOS anbietet und er deswegen wenige AmigaONEs verkauft könnte er sich das nicht leisten. 5. Steffen Häuser meint es lohnt sich nicht AmigaOS4 auf Peg zu Portieren wo eine Menge MOS-Fanatiker sind. Quelle(n): [26-Aug-2003] http://ann.lu/comments2.cgi?show=1061874058&category=forum&number=8#comment Pegasos2 for only $299? : Comment 8 of 37 Posted by David Ogg (64.246.11.102) on 26-Aug-2003 09:47:59 In Reply to Comment 4: "OS4 -- there are a number of Resellers that will seek to bring OS4 to the Pegasos with the agreement of Amiga Inc. Good for them. Good for us." I contacted Amiga and was fully prepared to give this a go. Fleecy or Gary should be able to confirm this. I told them what I wanted to do, and that I was fully prepared to embark on this venture. They responded requesting proof of a "brick and mortar" storefront, store hours (for support) and Federal Tax ID. I responded with proof of the above, and also gave them a link to our page on the Better Business Bureau's website showing that we've been in business at the same storefront sucessfully, without a single customer complaint for the past 8 years. I never heard from them again, they completely blew me off. [...] /*-----------------------*/ Interview mit Garry Hare. http://amigaworld.net/modules/features/index.php?op=r&cat_id=3&rev_id=50&sort_by Question 4.1: Will we see OS 4.0 on the Pegasos computer? Garry: In business you never say never. To my knowledge, Hyperion, Eyetech, Amiga and, certainly KMOS, have never received a proposal from Pegasos regarding the OS. In general, I look at potential business prospects from several angles. First, what are the financial consequences of a given deal? I tend to focus on the worst case rather than upside projections, which tend to be a little rosy. If you achieve nothing more than worst case, what are the costs and benefits? Then, how would a new business relationship affect current partners and customers? There are some deals you simply can't do. There are, of course, limits to this. Let's say for example Intel (no, we don't have a deal with Intel) wants to buy 10 million units of something that competes with a current partner selling 10,000 units. Generally something can be worked out. Finally, is there a business history with a potential partner? What is their reputation in the market? Are they managed by people that you would like doing business with? Given just this criteria, I can't envision anything that Genesi and KMOS have to talk about. Sometimes life is just too short. /*-----------------------*/ [19.04.2004] http://www.ann.lu/comments2.cgi?view=1082207823&category=forum&start=101 Question regarding kmos and peg : Comment 123 of 136 Posted by Nate Downes (Trusted user) on 19-Apr-2004 13:54:30 In Reply to Comment 112 (the man in the shadows): Let's see, so far KMOS has failed to respond to at least 5 licensing inquiries in the few weeks of public ownership. The discussions from KMOS consistantly repeats the same failed business model McEwan has posted. /*-----------------------*/ [Alan Redhouse about the Articia Bug. Transcript from WOASE 2002] http://amiverse.homeip.net/article.php?sid=51 [...] So if there are ten thousand potential purchasers and I'm the only supplier, my unit board cost will - for example - be about two thirds' [what it would cost me to make] a run of half that number of boards. If that ten thousand [boards] is shared between two [manufacturers], then the total cost of each board to me, and therefore to you, will be more, by - in this example - 50%. If we divide that even further it just becomes untenable, and people drop out. In fact, Fleecy will tell you that I said if there's any more than two people involved in this Amiga marketplace I wouldn't play ball because I couldn't make the sums add up. [...] /*-----------------------*/ [Steffen Häuser über AOS4 auf Peg] http://www.amiga-news.de/forum/thread.php3?id=7015&start=61&BoardID=1 MagicSN Posts: 201 [...] Ich denke auch nicht, daß OS 4 zu irgendeinem Zeitpunkt auf den Pegasos portiert wird (lohnt sich ja auch nicht, bei den 600 Usern, von denen ne ganze Menge MOS-Entwickler oder MOS-Fanatiker sind, die an OS 4 sowieso nicht interessiert sind). [...] Steffen /*-----------------------*/ -- Carpe Noctem |
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2004-07-05, 22:50 h [ - Direct link - ] |
topic: "Shop" mit Raubkopien von Workbench?
Board: Amiga, AmigaOS 4 Zitat:Nein. -- Carpe Noctem |
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2004-05-17, 21:49 h [ - Direct link - ] |
topic: OS4 - wie wars in Essen?
Board: Amiga, AmigaOS 4 Zitat: Jemanden aufzufordern sich durch eine unhygienische Tätigkeit eine Blutvergiftung zuzuziehen, könnte man durchaus als Morddrohung auffassen. -- Carpe Noctem [ Dieser Beitrag wurde von tokai am 17.05.2004 editiert. ] |
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2004-03-10, 16:10 h [ - Direct link - ] |
topic: Wann läuft Akku aus?
Board: Amiga, AmigaOS 4 Zitat: Ein Akku ist ein Luftdichter Behälter in dem Flüssigkeit ist. Durch Erwärmung oder Chemische Reaktion kann so ein Behälter, wie jeder andere auch, platzen oder auslaufen. Eigentlich Ganz einfach :-) Wenn ich mich nicht gerade Mental auf Feierabend vorbeireiten würde, könnte ich natürlich auch mit der DigiCam hier im Labor ein Messgerät mit ausgelaufenem Akku suchen, find ich bestimmt irgendwo, und dir als Beweis-Bild mailen.  Ausser auf deinem A500 ist ein Polymer-Akku, aber das glaube ich nicht. A U S L Ö T E N ! ! :-) -- Carpe Noctem |
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2004-03-10, 14:57 h [ - Direct link - ] |
topic: Wann läuft Akku aus?
Board: Amiga, AmigaOS 4 Zitat:Doch. @Eye-Borg Auslöten, Eintüten, an nem kühlen Ort Aufbewahren! -- Carpe Noctem |
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2004-02-17, 21:27 h [ - Direct link - ] |
topic: Wann denn endlich OS4?Wie lang sollen wir denn noch warten,wir Dummen?
Board: Amiga, AmigaOS 4 Zitat:Hihi, da fällt mir was ein: Zitat:  -- Carpe Noctem |
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2004-02-17, 12:23 h [ - Direct link - ] |
topic: Wann denn endlich OS4?Wie lang sollen wir denn noch warten,wir Dummen?
Board: Amiga, AmigaOS 4 @Tocker Zitat: Ask Fleecy: http://amigaworld.net/modules/fleecymoss/index.php?cat_id=28 > [...] The Amiga Power Platform (APP) website will go live a month or so before we hope to release AmigaOS4.0 [...] Also noch mindestens einen Monat. -- Carpe Noctem |
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2003-10-22, 20:38 h [ - Direct link - ] |
topic: Preise AmigaOne / Pegasos
Board: Amiga, AmigaOS 4 @Kronos Zitat:War da wirklich ein echter Coupon dabei oder mehr so ein virtueller wie bei den T-Shirts? Und: Wenn alle die ganzen Coupons, Rabatte, Multi-Trilliarden-Dolar-Gewinne usw einlösen, wieviel müßte AInc dann eigentlich an Hyperion zahlen? -- Carpe Noctem |
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2003-10-22, 19:53 h [ - Direct link - ] |
topic: Preise AmigaOne / Pegasos
Board: Amiga, AmigaOS 4 @Kronos Zitat: *** [20-Jul-2003] http://www.amiga-news.de/de/news/comments/thread/AN-2003-07-00149-DE.html Jürgen Lange (20-Jul-2003, 11:03) [...] Das Amiga SDK war kein Renner, wie auch, lies es sich doch schon beim Erscheinen nur auf damals schon veralteten Linux-Distributionen problemlos installieren. Laut P.T. wurden gerade mal 180 Examplare europaweit (!) abgesetzt. Diese Zahl kann ich nachvollziehen, da ich selbst zwei Pakete kostenlos über einen längeren Zeitraum auf meiner Web- Seite angeboten hatte, ohne auch nur eine (!!!) Nachfrage dazu zu bekommen! [...] Jürgen *** Nun, da das von den 3000 Entwicklern IIRC auf den Webseiten von AMigaInc steht muss es WAHR sein. (denn; die Wahrheit ist nicht irgendwo da draußen sondern ungefähr genau bei http://www.amiga.com Ich vermute mal der Flauschige hat die restlichen 2820 SDKs (= 3000 - 180) selbst gekauft. Schließlich soll AOS5 ja auch SMP haben und das muss natürlich getestet werden. (1 Lizenz/CPU) -- Carpe Noctem |
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2003-10-20, 23:31 h [ - Direct link - ] |
topic: Preise AmigaOne / Pegasos
Board: Amiga, AmigaOS 4 @Kronos Zitat: Ja wie jetzt?! Ich dachte Hyperion Entertainment bräuchte keine Unterstützung bei einer evtl Portierung: *** http://www.amiga-news.de/forum/thread.php3?id=7015&start=61&BoardID=1 MagicSN Posts: 201 Mir ist nichts davon bekannt, und wenn es da irgendeine Einigung bzgl. Amiga OS4 und Pegasos gäbe, wäre ich sicher einer der ersten, die davon wüßten. Und ich habe erst gestern mit Ben Hermans gesprochen, der ganz gewiß der Erste wäre, der davon wüßte. Nebenbei: Für eine Einigung muß es erstmal zumindest eine Diskussion geben... Ich denke auch nicht, daß OS 4 zu irgendeinem Zeitpunkt auf den Pegasos portiert wird (lohnt sich ja auch nicht, bei den 600 Usern, von denen ne ganze Menge MOS-Entwickler oder MOS-Fanatiker sind, die an OS 4 sowieso nicht interessiert sind). Ich frage mich ernsthaft a) mit wem Buck gesprochen haben will (mit der Putzfrau ? ) b) wie er "eine Portierung auf den Pegasos unterstützen" will. Entweder Hyperion Entertainment portiert es oder nicht. Da gibt es nicht viel, worin er "unterstützen" kann IMHO Steffen *** Oder doch?: *** [24-Aug-2003] http://www.ann.lu/comments2.cgi?view=1061646930&category=news&start=101#message112 Ben Hermans about the A1 "bugs" : Comment 123 of 175 Posted by Fabio Alemagna (151.26.79.244) on 24-Aug-2003 07:26:30 In Reply to Comment 75: > You should know quite well that Hyperion needs not only a machine but the > hardware documentation aswell, which was never offered. They can subscribe to the PegPort list, just like tens of other people from may OS teams have done, and get all the documentation they need. *** Kann jemand mal ein walkthrough zu diesem AmigaAdventure schreiben, ich verliere langsam den Überblick -- Carpe Noctem |
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2003-10-20, 23:11 h [ - Direct link - ] |
topic: Preise AmigaOne / Pegasos
Board: Amiga, AmigaOS 4 @AP Zitat: Anscheinend genug für den Flauschigen Barrie J. Moss es als Punkt a) zu erwähnen. *** [28-Jul-2003] http://polarboing.com/sections.php?op=viewarticle&artid=24 Fleecy: We make money from a) licencing and selling AmigaOS b) certifying hardware for the AmigaOS c) licencing and selling AmigaDE d) selling Amiga DE content *** Zitat: (Der Name DAvid Ogg kommt mir zwar bekannt vor, ich weiss aber nicht mehr woher.) *** [26-Aug-2003] http://ann.lu/comments2.cgi?show=1061874058&category=forum&number=8#comment Pegasos2 for only $299? : Comment 8 of 37 Posted by David Ogg (64.246.11.102) on 26-Aug-2003 09:47:59 In Reply to Comment 4: "OS4 -- there are a number of Resellers that will seek to bring OS4 to the Pegasos with the agreement of Amiga Inc. Good for them. Good for us." I contacted Amiga and was fully prepared to give this a go. Fleecy or Gary should be able to confirm this. I told them what I wanted to do, and that I was fully prepared to embark on this venture. They responded requesting proof of a "brick and mortar" storefront, store hours (for support) and Federal Tax ID. I responded with proof of the above, and also gave them a link to our page on the Better Business Bureau's website showing that we've been in business at the same storefront sucessfully, without a single customer complaint for the past 8 years. I never heard from them again, they completely blew me off. I've now moved on to bigger and better things. Amiga Inc is impossible to do business with. I have no faith in their future speaking from my (limited and unproductive) dealings with them. For a company that claims to want it's product "running everywhere", they do a damn poor job responding to opportunities trying to make that happen. *** Ich habe auch mal ein Posting (Finde ich aber nicht mehr) von einem Genesi Mitarbeiter (NeKo,targhan??) auf A.Org gelesen, dass Genesi auf Fragen zur AOS Lizenz auch keine Antwort bekommen haben. -- Carpe Noctem |
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2003-09-24, 17:48 h [ - Direct link - ] |
topic: AOS 4
Board: Amiga, AmigaOS 4 PAB: Zitat: Tja, jetzt ist es allerdings eine Betatester weniger: Original [Italienisch] http://www.favrin.net/txt/varie/msg/goodbye_os4.phtml Goodbye OS4 English version of this article will be available soon. . Game over. La mia esperienza come betatester di Amiga OS4 finisce qui e sinceramente parlando mi fa piacere, perché ne ho abbastanza della mancanza di rispetto di certa gente e delle guerre sante fra le fazioni di questa cosiddetta "comunità" Amiga, ormai ridotta a un mercato rionale. In breve: sono stato messo alla porta e mi è stato detto chiaramente che per essere betatester di OS4 non bisogna criticare in nessun modo Amiga Inc o persone ad essa collegate. Mai, nemmeno quando agiscono in maniera scorretta offendendo altri per le loro idee e opinioni. A queste condizioni preferisco di gran lunga essere fuori da qualsiasi cosa connessa ad Amiga Inc ed ai suoi partner. Quindi tanti saluti e buona fortuna a chi resterà. Se volete saperne di più, leggete. adesso vi racconto per bene tutto, poi giudicate voi. Sabato 20 e Domenica 21 Settembre si è tenuto Pianeta Amiga, la fiera in cui è stato dimostrato OS4 in versione nativa PPC. La presentazione è andata tutto sommato bene ma in molti si sono lamentati di aver visto un po' pochino (solo il desktop in pratica) senza rendersi conto del lavoro necessario per trasformare un OS nato su 68k e scritto prevalentemente in Assembly in un prodotto funzionante su sistemi PPC, quindi con tutti i componenti riscritti in C e resi indipendenti dall'hardware. Bene, su Amiga Network News una persona ha scritto un resoconto della fiera criticando il poco che si è visto e dichiarandosi delusa dalla mancanza di risultati dopo anni di sviluppo (OS4 era annunciato per Novembre 2001...). Posizione contestabile ma legittima da parte di un utente comune, no? Per tutta risposta Mike Bouma, gran capo del portale ufficiale supportato da Amiga Inc (dove i messaggi critici verso Amiga sono molto pochi...) lo ha definito un troll inattendibile che diffonde falsi reportage dagli show per screditare il grande lavoro che Amiga sta facendo e favorire i concorrenti. Al che, come utente Amiga italiano che ha a che fare con molti altri amighisti italiani, mi sono sentito in dovere di dire la mia e chiarire al signor Bouma che la maggior parte dei commenti circolati in questi giorni nella comunità Amiga italiana erano dello stesso tenore: delusione per il poco che si era visto di OS4. Ho anche aggiunto che personalmente non ero daccordo con le reazioni di questa gente. Il punto che comunque ho tenuto a sottolineare è che più che i tempi di sviluppo di OS4 sono i comportamenti come quelli di Bouma ad allontanare la gente da Amiga, che ne abbiamo tutti abbastanza di persone capaci solo di insultare (sì, insultare!) in nome di un marchio commerciale, persone pronte a offendere e delegittimare chiunque non accetti il dogma che Amiga è bello perché si chiama Amiga. Scritto il mio commento ho pensato ad altro e la serata è finita tranquillamente con la sistemazione dell'articolo di un mio amico. Il pomeriggio successivo accendo il computer, mi collego, prelevo la posta e leggo il seguente messaggio da parte del coordinatore dei betatester di OS4: "Ben Hermans (il capo di Hyperion, l'azienda che sviluppa OS4 per conto di Amiga, NdA) mi ha chiesto di rimuoverti dalla lista, non so cosa sia successo fra voi e non lo voglio sapere" e le solite cose. Al che scrivo, in copia a lui e a Hermans, chiedendo conto del perché di tale decisione. In realtà lo immagino benissimo: Bouma ha sbattuto i piedi con Amiga Inc affinché un cattivone come me fosse allontanato, con la scusa che "le critiche possono danneggiare Amiga". Conosco lui e il suo clan. Non mi hanno mai potuto soffrire perché ho sempre parlato bene di OS4 dal punto di vista tecnico ma ho anche criticato il loro comportamento (che è francamente indecente, fossero utenti di una mia chat verrebbero espulsi per offese e comportamento scorretto...). Ma la cosa incredibile è l'insieme di risposte che ho ottenuto da Ben Hermans. Dapprima ha detto che il mio messaggio era stato perfino cancellato dai moderatori di ANN e quindi come potevo dire di non aver fatto nulla di male? Dopo che gli ho fatto osservare che il post era ancora lì ha risposto che evidentemente era stato mal informato da tale Andrea. Chi sia questo Andrea non è rilevante, mentre mi chiedo se Hermans abbia agito in base a cose constatate da lui stesso o sulla base di ciò che gli hanno detto (o imposto?) altri. Poco male, in ogni caso il succo che mi è stato ribadito (perché il discorso non è nuovo, sotto pressioni di un altro "amicone" di Amiga Inc me lo aveva già fatto un paio di mesi fa) è che i betatester e gli sviluppatori di OS4 non possono criticare Amiga Inc, le strategie di Amiga Inc, i partner di Amiga Inc ed i collaboratori di Amiga Inc. Quindi io che ho detto a Mike Bouma di non offendere le persone e di tornarsene nel suo portale dove si pratica la censura delle critiche ad Amiga Inc (fatto comprovato) ho commesso un "reato". Avrei dovuto lasciarlo fare, perché Mike Buma è il curatore del portale ufficiale di Amiga Inc, è supportato da Amiga Inc e quindi lui può parlare, anche offendere se vuole, e nessuna persona che a qualsiasi titolo collabori anche indirettamente con Amiga (per esempio svolgendo il lavoro volontario e non retribuito di betatest di un sistema operativo per conto di un'azienda terza che ha stipulato un contratto con Amiga Inc) può permettersi di criticarlo, anche solo su questioni inerenti il suo atteggiamento. Ben Hermans poi prosegue accusandomi di aver contribuito poco al betatesting, e questo è vero, ma ho avuto diversi motivi: innanzitutto problemi hardware all'Amiga che mi hanno costretto a una sistemazione di ripiego (OS molto più vecchio su lenta e stretta partizione su un lento disco IDE) per diversi mesi, poi impegni personali, poi di lavoro. In effetti comunque da tempo pensavo di lasciare il betatest di OS4: è bello ma è un sistema in fase di sviluppo e quindi non è adatto all'uso da parte di chi necessita di perfetta stabilità per esigenze lavorative. Inoltre mancano alcune cose che il mio attuale sistema mi permette di avere e che mi servono. Finora avevo temporeggiato perché ritenevo molto istruttivo leggere la mailing list interna e seguire lo sviluppo di un sistema operativo in diretta. Vista la superficialità e scorrettezza constatata e in generale l'ambiente veramente sgradevole che ormai ruota attorno ad Amiga, non mi opporrò a questa decisione, anzi! Come ho già avuto modo di scrivere mi sto allontanando sempre più dal mondo Amiga e vedo questo computer come uno strumento, non certo un dogma, un motto o uno stile di vita. Anche perché se l'intelligenza di chi sceglie Amiga si deve valutare dal comportamento di persone come Mike Bouma e simili (e ne potrei elencare diversi, ben noti a chi segue ANN), beh... preferisco perfino Windows, un mercato con problemi ma con molta gente in gamba e certamente più corretta. "So said, game over". Non aspettatevi che da adesso mi metta a parlar male di OS4. è un ottimo sistema operativo e l'ho sempre detto in tutte le sedi (a proposito, Ben Hermans dice che "People are quoting you as a source on ANN to back up claims against OS 4". Deve esserselo sognato, dato che chiunque mi legga in qualsiasi ambiente sa che questa affermazione non corrisponde certo a verità, anzi...). Potrei cominciare ora, ma a differenza di altri non voglio farmi sporcare dalla mancanza di correttezza che regna sovrana in ciò che resta del mercato Amiga nel 2003. Meglio lasciarli affondare e bruciare i pur buoni progetti a cui tanta gente sta lavorando col cuore e la passione. Io la mia parte l'ho fatta. Ho aiutato Olaf Barthel con RoadShow e ho fatto altre cose che non cito perché non voglio "sporcarle" con la rassegnazione che chiude questo messaggio. Rassegnazione perché sto vedendo tramontare un sogno. Non il mio ma uno più grande. Quello di una comunità di gente diversa, corretta e amica, di gente che si sosteneva e rispettava. Un tempo Amiga era questo, ora non più. E nello stato attuale delle cose preferisco andarmene il più in fretta possibile. Non senza far sapere per bene a tutti questa storia. Gabriele Favrin **************************** Google Übersetzung http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.favrin.net%2Ftxt%2Fvarie%2Fmsg%2Fgoodbye_os4.phtml&langpair=it%7Cen&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&oe=utf-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools Goodbye OS4 English version of this article will be available soon. . Game over. My experience as betatester of Amiga OS4 it ends here and sincerely speaking makes me appeals to, because I have some enough of the lack of respect of sure people and of the Saint wars between the factions of this so-called "community" Amiga, by now reduced to a rionale market. In short: they have been put to the door and me it has been said clearly that for being betatester of OS4 it does not have to criticize in no way Amiga Inc or connected persons to it. Never, not even when they act in way scorretta offending others for their ideas and opinions. To these conditions I by far prefer to be outside from whichever connected thing to Amiga Inc and its partner. Therefore many salutes and good fortune to who will remain. If you want to more know some, you read story now to you in order well all, then judged. 20 saturdays and 21 Sunday September Amiga Planet has been kept, the fair in which has been demonstrated OS4 in native version PPC. The presentation has gone all adding well but in many they are complains you to only have seen po' pochino (a desktop in practical) without becoming account of the job necessary in order to transform a OS been born on 68k and written mostly in Assembly in a product working on systems PPC, therefore with all the members rewritten in C and rendered independent from the hardware. , on Amiga Network News a person has written a report of the fair well criticizing little that she has looked at herself and declaring itself disappointed from the lack of turns out to you after years of development (OS4 was announced for November 2001...). Contestabile but legitimate position from part of a common customer, not? For all answer Mike Bouma, great head of the supported official portale from Amiga Inc (where the critical messages us towards Amiga are a lot little...) have defined it a troll unreliable that it diffuses makes yourself reportage from the show in order to discredit the great job that Amiga is making and to favor the contenders. To that, like Italian Amiga customer whom it has to that to make with many other Italian amighisti, they are felt to me in it must say mine and to clear Mr. Bouma who the greater part of the comments circulates to you in these days in Italian the Amiga community they were of the same tenor: disappointment for little that it had been looked at of OS4. also I have added that personally I was not daccordo with the reactions of this people. The point that however I have held to emphasize is that more than the times than development of OS4 they are the behaviors like those of Bouma to remove people from Amiga, than of it we have all of able persons to only insult enough (yes, to insult!) in name of a brand they trades, ready persons to offend and to delegitimize anyone not chip axes the dogma that Amiga is beautiful because Amiga is called. Written my comment I have thought to other and the evening is ended calmly with the sistemazione of the article of a my friend. The successive afternoon I ignite the computer, I am connected, I captured the mail and I read the following message from part of the coordinator of the betatester of OS4: "Very Hermans (the head of Hyperion, the company that develops OS4 of Amiga on behalf, NdA) has asked to me to remove to you from the list, I do not know what has happened between you and I do not want to know" and the usual things to it. To that I write, in copy to he and Hermans, asking the account for because of such decision. In truth I imagine it very well: Bouma has blinked the feet with Amiga Inc so that a cattivone as me it was removed, with the excuse that "the critics can damage Amiga". I know he and its clan. Me they have not never been able to suffer because I have always spoken well about OS4 from the technical point of view but also I have criticized their behavior (that he is frankly indecente, were customers of one mine chat would come expelled for offenses and behavior scorretto...). But the incredible thing is with of answers that I have obtained from Very Hermans. At first it has said that my message had been even cancelled from ANN moderators and therefore like I could say not to have badly made null? After that I have made it to observe that the post was still lì it has answered that evidently had been badly informed from such Andrea. Who is this Andrea is not important, while I ask myself if Hermans has churns based on things stated from same he or on the base of that they have said (or tax to it) others. Little badly, in any case the juice that me has been ribadito (because the speech is not new, under pressures of an other "amicone" of Amiga Inc me had already made a pair of months ago) is that betatester and the sviluppatori of OS4 cannot criticize Amiga Inc, the strategies of Amiga Inc, the partner of Amiga Inc and the collaborators of Amiga Inc. Therefore I that I have dictate to Mike Bouma not to offend the persons and to return myself some in its portale where practical the censorship of the critics to Amiga Inc (made proven) I have store clerk a "crime". I would have had to leave to make it, because Mike Buma is the curatore of the official portale of Amiga Inc, is supported from Amiga Inc and therefore it can speak, also to offend if he wants, and no person that to whichever title it collaborates indirectly also with Amiga (as an example carrying out the voluntary and not retribuito job of betatest of an operating system on behalf of a company third that has stipulated a contract with Amiga Inc) can allow itself to criticize it, also only on inherent issues its attitude. Very Hermans then continues accusing me to have contributed little to the betatesting, and this is true, but I have had various reasons: in the first place problems hardware to the Amiga that has forced me to one sistemazione $R-di.ripiego (OS the much oldest one on slow and tightened partition on a slow disc IDE) for various months, then personal engagements, then of job. In effects however for a long time I thought to leave the betatest of OS4: it is beautiful but it is a system in phase of development and therefore it is not adapted to the use from part of who needs of perfect stability for working requirements. Moreover some things lack that mine system puts into effect them allows me to have and that they serve to me. Up to now temporeggiato because I thought much instructive one to read the mailing list inner and to follow the development of a directed operating system in. Seen the superficialità and stated scorrettezza and in a generalized manner the truly unpleasant atmosphere that by now Amiga wheel round, I will not oppose myself to this decision, indeed! As I have already had way to write I am going away more and more from the Amiga world and see this computer like one instrument, not sure a dogma, a maxim or one life style. Also because if the intelligence of who chooses Amiga must be estimated from the behavior of similar persons as Mike Bouma and (and I could some list various, very you notice who follows ANN), beh... I even prefer Windows, a market with problems but with much people in leg and sure more corrected. "I know said, game over". You do not expect that from now it puts to speak to me badly about OS4. is an optimal operating system and I have always said in all the centers to it (on purpose, Very Hermans says that "People to are quoting you as to source on ANN to back up claims against OS 4". It must it are dreammed it, since anyone reads in whichever atmosphere knows to me that this affirmation does not correspond sure to truth, indeed...). I could begin hour, but with the exception of others I do not want makes me to soil from the correctness lack that reigns sovereign in that it remains of the Amiga market in 2003. Better to leave to also sink them and to burn the good plans to which much people it is working with the heart and the passion. I it my part have made it. I have helped Olaf Barthel with RoadShow and have made other things that I do not cite because I do not want "to soil them" with the giving up that closes this message. Giving up because I am seeing to tramontare a dream. Not mine but one larger. That one of a community of various people, corrected and friend, of people that supported themselves and respected. An Amiga time was this, hour not more. And in the state they of the things puts into effect prefers to go themselves some more in a hurry possible. Without not to make to know in order to all this history well. Gabriel Favri -- Carpe Noctem |
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2003-09-22, 21:41 h [ - Direct link - ] |
topic: IPv6
Board: Amiga, AmigaOS 4 Roger: Zitat:Ganz sicher nicht. Die ersten Entwürfe zu ip6 gab's schon 1995/6. Also lange vor TCPA Die von dandy zitierten/gefürchteten Dinge sind wohl: o Verschlüsselung udn Authentifizierung Damit werden IPsec Funktionen im Protokoll verankert. sowie die Header erweiterungen: o Authentication Header Er erlaubt es einem Empfänger festzustellen, ob das Paket tatsächlich von dem angegebenen Absender stammt oder ob es während der Übertragung verändert wurde. o Encapsulating Security Payload Header wird zur Verschlüsselung des Paketes benötigt (IPsec) Zitat:ip6 ist einige merh als nur mehr ip-adressen. Zb durch die oben angedeuteten Erweiterungsheader mehr Flexibilität in der Zukunft. Einige Felder des IP4 Headers wurden entfernt oder in die Eweiterungsheader ausgelagert = einfachere Auswertbarkeit der Pakete durch Router. Quality of Service Wenn der Absender eine spezielle Behandlung bei den PAketen wünscht kann er sie markieren zb für realtime anwendungen, multimedia usw. -- Carpe Noctem |
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2003-09-18, 15:54 h [ - Direct link - ] |
topic: Wer glaubt noch an Amiga Inc.?
Board: Amiga, AmigaOS 4 Zitat:Hyperion kann AOS4 nur selbst verkaufen wenn innerhalb sechs monaten nach Aincs insolvenz kein anderer ein AmigaOS rausbringt. -- Carpe Noctem |
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2003-08-20, 21:42 h [ - Direct link - ] |
topic: Einsatzmöglichkeit von OS4.0 auf Pegasos
Board: Amiga, AmigaOS 4 AC-Pseudo: Zitat:Na danke :-( Wirst du immer so schnell beleidigend? Nur weil ich hier nicht sehr of schreibe heisst das nich das ich ein niemand bin! Zitat:bbrv haben eine Lizenz für DE, die wollen sie auch benutzen. Problematisch wurde das erst als AInk einen Kleinkrieg mit bPlan und Genesi vom Zaun brachen. (Diebstahls beschuldigungen, Hardware-Zertifizierungsprogramme bei welcher der 'PArtner' finanziell durchleutet werden soll usw..) Zitat:Gibt es denn noch informierte Amigianer? Von AInk kamen seit einem dreivierteljahr nur zwei Sätze 'Wir kommen mit AOS4 zur Cebit' und 'ach, doch nicht'. Ein Teil dessen was wirklich muss sich der informierte Amigianer aus Diskussionsforen zusammenpuzzlen. Zitat:In einem so frühen Stadium der Enticklung kann der Nutzen von DE für Genesi auch nur von Genesi beurteilt werden. Zitat:AInc wehrt sich nicht. Sie haben nur keine Ahnung wie man eine Frima führt. Zitat:Ein Warenzeichen ist abgelaugen. Jemand anderes will es kaufen. Das ist keine 'Markenpiraterie', das ist passiert Täglich. Zitat:Same picture as every year... -- Carpe Noctem |
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2003-08-20, 21:09 h [ - Direct link - ] |
topic: Einsatzmöglichkeit von OS4.0 auf Pegasos
Board: Amiga, AmigaOS 4 AC-Pseudo: Zitat:Sicherlich. Aber bis jetzt gibt es 'nur' positive Gespräche über AOS4 auf Peg. Und bei positiven Gesprächen war bbrv schon einmal zu zuversichtlich. Weshalb die Hoffnung von OS4 auf Peg dieselbe ist wie schon vor einem Jahr. Zitat:Inwiefern steht der Pegasos mit dem AmigaDE in Konkurrenz? Zitat:Na DAS ist das einzige was sie bis jetzt auch gut hinbekommen haben. Zitat:Quelle(n) Zitat: About Amiga Amiga Inc. established itself in 1985 as the premier provider of multi-media technologies to the world. Today Amiga continues leading the way in multi-media by providing language independent technologies to developers for writing and porting applications to a new multi-media platform that is hardware agnostic. Da Hyperions Betriebsystem afaik NICHT hardware agnostic ist, ist es absolut korrekt bei -Amiga für Pegasos- auf die AmigaDE/anywhere/ Seite zu linken (oder ein Logo aufn Peg draufzupapen). Zitat:Wer irgendwer? Wer hat deiner Meinung nach die Befugniss und die Glaubwürdigkeit das zu bestätigen? Fleecy "on shedule and rocking" Moss ? Bill "Wir sind noch in unseren Büros, haben nur Probleme mit den Tel.leitungen" McEwen ? Ben "ich weiß genau wieviele Northbridges bPlan zur Verfügung stehen" Hermanns ? -- Carpe Noctem |
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2003-08-20, 04:23 h [ - Direct link - ] |
topic: Einsatzmöglichkeit von OS4.0 auf Pegasos
Board: Amiga, AmigaOS 4 Zitat: Da bbrv nicht geasgt haben mit welchen Personen diese positive Gespräche erfolgen, ist es ziemlich schwer zu sagen woher der Sinneswandel dieser Personen kommt. Vielleicht haben AInk eingesehen dass diese AmigaHardwareNamensPrüfLizenz scheisse ist, oder Hyperion ist eben genannte nun egal.. ;-) Ok. Du meinst sicher woher der Sinneswandel von bbrv kommt. Du wolltest wohl auch mal das mit den Loaded Questions ausprobieren ;-) bbrv haben in den letzten 65 Milliarden Jahren ungefähr 9458 mal verlautbaren lassen dass sie AOS4 gerne auf dem Pegasos sehen würden (genauso wie ein dutzend andere OS), solange sie nicht Fleecys ömimöse "Hardware wo AOS drauf läuft muss zertifiziert, geprüft, gedingst sein und das kostet"-Lizenzdingenskirchenstralala-Teil kaufen müssen. Zitat:Ich hab auch anderes gelesen, zb von April-less Boards. Zitat:oder so. Zitat:Welche Linux Geschäfte? Zitat:Nö. Zitat:Der Weg, dass möglichst viele Betreibssysteme auf dem Pegasos laufen sollen, ist doch schon seit langem (siehe oben) eingeschlagen. Zitat:...die sicher gut für ein 'Wer wird Millionär'-Special wären. 250000¤ Frage: Wo schläft BillMcEwen heute Nacht? [ ] in seinem Haus [ ] in einem Hotel [ ] in seinem AMC Gremlin [ ] in einem Amiga-T-shirt Zitat:Wenn du mit komisch witzig, ulkig, belustigend meinst; das ist es sicherlich :-D Zitat:Apropos... ISt denn jetzt schon geklärt wie man den WarpUP Application LAuncher bedienen muss wenn eine Anwendung ein externes WarpUP plugin aufrufen will?? Zitat:Das war ein schlechter Versu8ch zu flammen. Besser wäre gewesen: MorphOS ist genauso AmigaOS4 da es auf dem selbem (wen auch geklauten;) Source basiert. ;-D Zitat:mfg und gute Nacht -- Carpe Noctem |
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2003-08-11, 12:50 h [ - Direct link - ] |
topic: Prognose
Board: Amiga, AmigaOS 4 Zitat: Das ist absolut aussagekräftig. Serial Number: 78258059 Goods and Services: software applications that can run on multiple platforms Bill Buck Live Serial Number: 76096557 Goods and Services: software applications that can run on multiple platforms Amiga Ink. (Amino) Dead Serial Number: 75642361 Goods and Services: computer magazines. Amiga LCC Live Serial Number: 74221848 Goods and Services: women's shoes AMIGA, INC. CORPORATION TEXAS Dead Wirds jetzt Licht? ;-) @Kronos: Darauf angesprochen meinte Fleecy dass laut seinem Rechtsberater alles so ist wie es sein sollte?! Die Erklärung mit den Gläubigern passt aber sehr gut. Schön wie sich das alles entwickelt. -- --  Amiga - so the world may lough
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2003-08-09, 21:56 h [ - Direct link - ] |
topic: Prognose
Board: Amiga, AmigaOS 4 Zitat: Mal kucken.. http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=doc&state=7iaf4b.2.1 Owner(APPLICANT) Buck, William Hamilton Live/Dead Indicator: LIVE http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=doc&state=7iaf4b.2.7 Owner (APPLICANT) Amiga, Inc. CORPORATION WASHINGTON 34935 SE Douglas Street, Suite 210 Snoqualmie WASHINGTON 98065 Live/Dead Indicator: DEAD http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=doc&state=7iaf4b.2.15 Owner (REGISTRANT) Amiga Development LLC LIMITED Live/Dead Indicator: LIVE  -- -- Amiga - so the world may lough
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2003-04-11, 15:12 h [ - Direct link - ] |
topic: Amiga OS 4.0 - Wann?! Wann?!
Board: Amiga, AmigaOS 4 Zitat:Das ist doch etwas pauschalisiert. TCPA-Software benötigt ein TCPA-Betriebssystem und dieses TCPA-Hardware. Ich kann aber auch auf eine TCPA-Hardware ein NICHT TCPA-Betriebesystem installieren (Linux,BSD,WinXP) und dort NICHT TCPA-Software benutzen. Zitat:Wer das Knacken will, und nicht ganz blöde ist, macht das nicht mit Bruteforce sondern sucht schwächen im System. Es gibt bereits jetzt Schwächen im Konzept, wenn jetzt noch ein paar tausend Zeilen Code dazukommen wird Longhorn oder Blackcomb genauso löchrig wie jede andere Software, insbesondere die von Micrososft. Zitat:Quelle(n)? Zitat:Du denkst jetzt aber jetzt doch hoffentlich nicht an ein alternatives System mit welchem man noch nicht einmal alle Webseiten fehlerfrei anzeigen lassen kann?! Zitat:Ihn irgendwelchen Multimediamaschinen (settopbox, mp3player) könnte sich das durchsetzten. Vielleicht auch in Bereichen in denen wirklich alles Trusted sein muss. Ich weiß aber jetzt schon dass wir in unserer Firma auf keinen einzigen der mehr als 3000 Workstations ei n System draufprügeln dass bei jedem öffnen eines Dokuments erstmal bei einem Microsoft-TCPA-Server anfragt ob das erlaubt ist. Zitat:Linux, *BSD, Mac, (open)BeOS, Windows2008 Untrusted Edition, ... Zitat:Quelle(n)? Zitat:Das ist quatsch. Zitat:Finde ich eigentlich schon  Zitat:Wer sich die Mühe gemacht hat...; wird feststellen dass das TCPA-Konzept unüberlegt und jetzt Schon schwachstellen hat, Implementierung genausoviele fehler haben wird wie jedes andere Kopierschutzsystem UND wenn sich wirklich die meisten John DAUs sich für dumm verkaufen lassen; viele Firmen werden es nicht machen. Zitat:Wie üblich. ciaociao -- -- Amiga - so the world may lough
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2003-01-28, 19:23 h [ - Direct link - ] |
topic: Eure Meinung zu Civ-Clone Projekt
Board: Amiga, AmigaOS 4 Nein, mitmachen möchte ich nicht. Aber ein bischen pöbeln Beim ersten Bild mehr vertikalel Abstand zwischen den Worten. Hab mich erst gefragt was Realm P8wer heißen soll ?-) Auch bein zweiten Bild mehr vertikalen Abstand. Das sieht alles etwas zusammengequetscht aus. Beim Dritten: Sind das Dropdown buttons? Wenn ja dann mach das doch erkenntlich. Zb mit nem aufgemalten Pfeil nach unter oder so. Ansonsten sieht's wirklich gut aus. (das "richtige" Apostroph widme ich ensu -- -- Amiga - so the world may lough
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2003-01-22, 13:59 h [ - Direct link - ] |
topic: eMail-Adresse gesucht...
Board: Amiga, AmigaOS 4 IIRC alex@goedert.net -- -- Amiga - so the world may lough
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2002-12-12, 14:11 h [ - Direct link - ] |
topic: Wuetend!!!
Board: Amiga, AmigaOS 4 Zitat: Echt!? soll das heißen ich muß mir einen A1 kaufen sonst läuft mir meine Freundin weg oder benutzt in Zukunft eine Gurke? -- -- Amiga - so the world may lough
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2002-12-10, 18:01 h [ - Direct link - ] |
topic: Wuetend!!!
Board: Amiga, AmigaOS 4 Zitat:17:39 Uhr 'moin' ??  Zitat: Hast du Lust/Zeit mir den Inhalt der Gesprächsrunde zu erläutern. Ich weiß diese Frage ist vielleicht indiskret; mich würden die Gründe die hinter so einer, doch drastischen, Entscheidung stehen halt interessieren.  Wenn nicht; sag einfach nein ciao -- -- Amiga - so the world may lough
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2002-12-10, 16:33 h [ - Direct link - ] |
topic: Wuetend!!!
Board: Amiga, AmigaOS 4 Zitat: Falcon meint vemutlich diesen Artikel; bei dem IMO der Titel Falsch ist. http://www.amiga-news.de/de/news/AN-2002-11-00196-DE.html (hab den orginalartikel zwar nur überflogen, da stand halt was von Multitasking. (kein Ahnung was sich intels Marketinfrizen dabei wieder gedacht haben)) Aber diese Mischung aus Vorurteilen, Blinden Wahrheitsglauben an Inet-Artikel und fehlendem Fachwissen wirst du sicher noch öfter finden. Also lehne dich entspannd zurück, schnapp dir ein Bier und eine Tüte Chips und genieße die Amiga-Show -- -- Amiga - so the world may lough |
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