KOSH [Kommunity Orientated Software Hardware]

Weekly Summary

Week Commencing: 1st May 1999

Number: 019

Mailing List: kosh-general

In the mailing list this week, the following items were discussed. Please do
not email the scribe regarding any of these topics, it is not his job to answer
these questions but merely to report  the topics of conversation. If you have
any queries about this summary, please email ben@kosh.net, stating the Summary
Number, and Mailing List Name, and he will try to answer your queries.

a)

Subject: KOSH General ML Summaries

Summary of debate: These can be found both on the KOSH URL and at
                   http://www.mythicz.u-net.com

                   John Chandler also hopes to have a KOSH page up and running
                   soon and is interested in learning of links to other KOSH
                   pages.

b)

Subject: Bit size for KOSH OS

Summary of debate: It was asked if we are writing a 64-bit OS. The reply came
                   that we are writing an n-bit scalable OS that could easily
                   scale from 32-bit (and lower if needed) to 64-bit and more
                   if physical CPU and/or virtual implementation allow.

                   KOSH will not have address pointers exposed at the
                   application level. They will be within any HLL but that is
                   fixed on a recompile. At the API level there are object
                   references nominally somewhere between 64-bit and 128-bit.
                   Only an Object Manager will have any clue what an object
                   reference actually is.

                   Questions then posed: Can HLL and Object Manager be changed
                   so that applications can continue seamlessly? Could running
                   objects be moved from one machine to another, different one?


c)

Subject: Alternative OS Project - UNIOS

Summary of debate: A different OS project similar to KOSH can be seen at
                   http://unios.dhs.org/index.html


d)

Subject: KOSH Aminet

Summary of debate: Suggested we could see if it would be possible to get a KOSH
                   section on Aminet as there are files relating to NetBSD and
                   Linux already present - and KOSH will be ported to AmigaOS
                   (in one form or another).


e)

Subject: Abstracted KOSH and running multiple simultaneous OSses

Summary of debate: With software processors and the ability to maintain
                   multiple HALs as interchangeable objects and the ability to
                   maintain multiple HALs as interchangeable objects to allow
                   the system to view the ability to maintain the same hardware
                   in many different ways, we could make it relatively easy to
                   run multiple operating systems simultaneously. If we could
                   find a way of legally abstracting away and translating API
                   calls - WINE springs to mind - we could have crossplatform
                   software running relatively transparently.

                   However for something like this we would have to change the
                   OS - in essence port it to a new machine, much as has been
                   discussed for "hosted" KOSH.


f)

Subject: KOSH Survey

Summary of debate: Greg Webb and the Surveying Working Group have a preliminary
                   survey which they will show to us soon for comments. This
                   will be primarily to gather information from the wider world
                   about what should be included in KOSH and what it should
                   look/feel like.


g)

Subject: Correction to Summary 18 - Greg's email address

Summary of debate: Greg Webb's correct email address is
                   greg@gpwebb.freeserve.co.uk

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fda.lha              disk/cache 348K+Now write-able!!! V1.4
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ARock5.lha           docs/mags  604K+Italian Music Magazine (in italiano!)
ascene0E.lha         docs/mags  1.4M+First Austrian Online Amigazine, Apr.99
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OSS_China.lha        game/hint    4K+Heart of China Solve (German)
OSS_GRush.lha        game/hint   25K+Gold Rush Solve (German)
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OSS_HQ2.lha          game/hint   31K+Hero`s Quest 2 Solve (German)
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OSS_Larry5.lha       game/hint    7K+Larry 5 Solve (German)
OSS_Loom.lha         game/hint    5K+Loom Solve (German)
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OSS_PQ1.lha          game/hint   27K+Police Quest 1 Solve (German)
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OSS_SQ3.lha          game/hint   15K+Space Quest 3 Solve (German)
OSS_SQ4.lha          game/hint    7K+Space Quest 4 Solve (German)
OSS_Willy.lha        game/hint    4K+Willy Beamish Solve (German)
OSS_Zak.lha          game/hint   10K+Zak McKracken Solve (German)
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Scott.lha            game/role   71K+Adventure interpreter for Scott Adams cl
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inform_lib69.lha     game/text   84K+Libraries for Inform - V6/9.
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Safety.lha           gfx/ifx      1K+Generates Title Safety and Action Safety
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symEDIT.lha          mus/edit    78K+Symphonie 3.2
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Cow2.jpg             pix/misc   101K+What really happened to the mutilated co
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Fvc.lha              text/show   18K+*NEW UPDATE* A useful companion to your 
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Scegli.lha           util/boot   50K+Very configurable localized bootmenu w/ 
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rxasl.lha            util/rexx   16K+Rxasl.library 4.1 asl functions for ARex
AddBuffe.lha         util/sys     2K+Replaces original AddBuffers command (38
AmiInternetTim.lha   util/time   15K+Swatch internet time for Amiga!
ProcessIcon.lha      util/wb     12K+V1.10 CLI tool to manipulate icon data

• Wasted Dreams MasterCD wird gepresst und wird in 10 Tagen fertig sein.
• Wir haben ein neues Videoformat entwickelt, welches erlaubt, Animationen im Fullscreen und ohne schwarzen Rand abzuspielen und zwar schon auf einem A1200 mit einem 4fach-CD-ROM.
• Aufgrund eines Systemcrashs vorige Woche kann es sein, daß wir einige eMails verloren haben. Wenn Sie uns also kontaktiert haben und keine Antwort erhalten, bitte die eMail erneut senden.

• Wählen von Telefonnummern
• Auslesen der Gebührenzähler
• Löschen der Gebührenzähler
• Einfache Requester für Informationen, Fehleranzeige und "Ja/Nein"-Abfragen

• Beschleunigt sämtliche Medien wie z.B.*: Festplatten-, Floppy-, Compact-, ZIP, MagnetOptical- oder SyQuest-Laufwerke, nahezu wie eine RamDrive.
• Nutzt den freien Speicher als Cache; das Ergebnis ist, daß das Programm vollautomatisch auf Veränderungen der Speicherressourcen reagiert, wodurch Sie jederzeit die maximal mögliche Geschwindigkeit Ihrer Laufwerke auskosten können. Selbst "speicherhungrige" Programme werden so zufrieden gestellt.
• Ist das schnellste Cache Programm. Beschleunigt Festplatten um den Faktor 2 - 20, Disketten um den Faktor 2 - 997.
• Schreibzugriffe werden gesammelt, um später, beim Zurückschreiben zum Laufwerk, den Schreibkopf von der höchsten zur niedrigsten Adresse, "gleiten" zu lassen.
• Sanfteres, paralleles Schreiben und Lesen im Multitasking.
• Smart-Power-Technologie: Minimiert die Anzahl der Zugriffe auf die Disk.
• SmartCache: Lädt Blöcke im vorraus (read-ahead).
• Unterstützt DiskSafe (Niemals ungültige Platten).
• Unterstützt DiskExpander, Virtual-Memory-Manger (VMM), XFH, Temporäre Dateien und World-Wide-Web Browser.
• Unterstützt FileSystems mit einer variablen Block-größe.
• Unterstützt Festplatten mit einer 4 GigaByte Kapazität oder mehr.
• Keine Fragmentierung (Zerstückelung) des Speichers. (Im Gegenteil zu DynamiCache.)

• 1. Bilder vom Clubtreffen vom 07.05.99
• Neue Bilder vom 08.05.99
• Heiße Amigas am 08.05.99!!!

• Relationale, programmierbare Datenbank.
• Bearbeitung von mehreren Projekten gleichzeitig.
• Feldtypen: String, Memo (mehrzeiliger Text), Integer, Real, Datum, Zeit, Bool, Choice (Auswahl eines Eintrags aus einer Menge), Referenz (Zeiger auf einen Datensatz einer anderen Tabelle), Button (zum Starten eines MUIbase- Programms) und Virtuell (Wert wird berechnet, wenn er gerade benötigt wird).
• Der String-Datentyp kann auch Listen von Strings, Dateinamen und Fontnamen verwalten. Ein OS 3.x datatype Feld erlaubt die Anzeige von externen Bildern.
• Unbegrenzte Anzahl an Datensätzen.
• Dynamisches Laden der Datensätze. Datensätze, die gerade nicht benötigt werden, werden automatisch auf Platte ausgelagert.
• Programmierbarkeit. Die einfache aber sehr mächtige MUIbase-Programmiersprache erlaubt die Realisierung von beliebig komplexen Abläufen. Die Programmiersprache enthält auch eine SELECT-FROM-WHERE-Anweisung, um einfach und schnell Daten abzufragen.
• Import und Export von Datensätzen.
• Benutzt MUI als Benutzeroberfläche. Die Oberfläche kann auf die Wünsche des Benutzers angepaßt werden. Externe Bilder können mit in die Oberfläche integriert werden.
• Portierbarkeit. Die Entwicklung von MUIbase geschah mit der Idee einer einfachen Portierung auf andere Systeme. Die System- und Oberflächen-Softwaremodule wurden von den anderen Modulen getrennt, so daß eine Portierung von MUIbase auf ein anderes System nur die Portrierung dieser Teile erfordert. Der Autor prüft zur Zeit eine mögliche Java-Portierung der Benutzeroberfläche. Dies würde die Datenbank für fast alle Computersysteme, einschließlich Linux, Windows und MacOS, verfügbar machen.

• Die spinnen die Römer... Oder verschenkt VMC HyperCOM's?
• Neue HyperCOM 1 auch mit ClockPort Verlängerung!
• Neue HyperCOM 3+ für A1200, BuddaFlash und CatWeasel-Z2 ist da!
• HyperCOM 1 nicht mehr im deutschen Fachhandel?
• Kein Support mehr für MicroniK Zorro-Boards!

KOSH [Kommunity Orientated Software Hardware]

Weekly Summary

Week Commencing: 24th April 1999

Number: 018

Mailing List: kosh-general

In the mailing list this week, the following items were discussed. Please do
not email the scribe regarding any of these topics, it is not his job to answer
these questions but merely to report  the topics of conversation. If you have
any queries about this summary, please email ben@kosh.net, stating the Summary
Number, and Mailing List Name, and he will try to answer your queries.

a)

Subject: Location of KOSH Book List

Summary of debate: It was expressed that a mirror of the KOSH Book List should
                   be on the main http://www.kosh.net site.


b)

Subject: Query on the survey content (continued)

Summary of debate: Following from last weeks query as to whether a KOSH survey
                   should ask if alien file formats should be supported (see
                   point "n" from last weeks survey) it was suggested that the
                   question should be posed as this would give an idea as to
                   whether this should be setup in KOSH as a default or
                   optional setting.

                   A question like this could present an insentive to fill in
                   the questionnaire and would give people the feeling that
                   their views are being heard.

                   Alternatively the question "What file formats would you like
                   supported initially in KOSH?" could be asked. This could
                   generate a list too large to implement or could result in
                   people worrying that they had forgotten to include one in
                   their reply to the survey.

                   With KOSH, as with datatypes, virtually any format can be
                   supported - if not initially then simply by adding the
                   relevant object to the sea.

                   One suggestion in answer to the questions posed was that we
                   could have a range of useful data objects, one for each form
                   of data, one for lossy compression (with options for
                   different packing) and a very powerful import/export filter
                   to speak to non KOSH systems.

                   For further details please consult the KOSH Surveying
                   Working Group.


c)

Subject: The Free Expression Project

Summary of debate: This project aims "to develop a copylefted suite of
                   streaming media tools (server, client, encoders, and
                   codec(s)...[The aim] is to provide free tools for artists
                   who want to use the Web as a distribution medium..., and to
                   make Linux a viable platform for them to use."

                   See: http://www.free-expression.org/ from which the above
                   quote was taken.

                   It was mentioned that this is part of an attempt to ensure
                   free formats to spread free news feeds and entertainment.
                   It appears to be targeted at a few large organisations who
                   currently control the market.

                   Presumably the activities of Free Expression are something
                   KOSH could be involved with.


d)

Subject: Developers for KOSH

Summary of debate: See: http://java.oreilly.com/news/newos_0499.html which
                   could be a niche for KOSH and provide volunteers for
                   development.


e)

Subject: KOSH matter

Summary of debate: The fact that there are two levels of "matter" available
                   when discussing data in KOSH, bit streams and structures was
                   described. A data entity is always a bit stream; anything
                   above that is dependent upon the applied structure.

                   It was favourably expressed that this applied structure
                   could be defined using XML, with a DTD for every structure
                   that we use.


f)

Subject: Books on OS development

Summary of debate: A number of books were described on the above subject.
                   Details of them can be found on the KOSH Book list site (yes
                   that's an attempt to get everyone to look at it). The URL is
                   in previous summaries (yes that's an attempt to get
                   everyone to re-read them...you do read them don't you?).


g)

Subject: Web Author for KOSH wanted

Summary of debate: A web author/designer/coder for the KOSH project is
                   currently wanted by a number of people on the General
                   Mailing List. If you are interested in this voluntary post
                   then please contact the ML (email:kosh-general@kosh.net).

                   We need someone who has the ability and time to help get the
                   KOSH URL back up and running.

                   Please note that although this post is completely voluntary.
                   There is currently no funds available to pay for any work
                   done (including costs incurred from, for example uploading
                   via a charged telephone call). Pay -may- (no guarantee) come
                   about in the end in the form of KOSH Virtual Credits.

                   Further, the above post has been "created" by your humble
                   scribe as a result of the posts to the General KOSH ML. It
                   is not "official" (if anything truly is with the way KOSH is
                   organised to allow anyone to help in any way). Even so, if
                   you are interested and can demonstrate that you have both
                   the time and ability to help create a URL we would -very-
                   much like to hear from you.


h)

Subject: File formats

Summary of debate: A lot of information on file formats can be found at
                   http://www.wotsit.org


i)

Subject: KOSH Web Site revamped with regular columns on relevant subjects

Summary of debate: The KOSH URL will soon be back up and running (it may be by
                   the time you read this). Greg Webb would like to hear from
                   anyone who would like to write a column - one off or a
                   series on anything related to KOSH. Ideally this will be in
                   English, but any language is OK if a proof reader is
                   available.

                   Please email greg@gpwebb.freeserve.co.uk if you can help.